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Suppl 1 - They, who Fled the serpents

por Olympus Mons, em 12.03.16


Suppl I

The serpents are comming

They who populate our nightmares


They were all wrong. All.

However it’s remarkable how it was all explain by themselves to Periplus, for instance, when he was in what is now Lisbon. And Periplus wrote it. And later Avienius wrote in “Ora Maritima” citing him.


Usually is put like this:

“…the fourth century CE Roman poet on geographical subjects, Rufus Avienus Festus, in Ora Maritima ("Seacoasts"), a poem inspired by a much earlier Greek mariners' periplus, records that Oestriminis was peopled by the Oestrimni, a people who had lived there for a long time, who had to run away from their native lands after an invasion of serpents. His fanciful account has no archeological or historical application, but the poetical name has sometimes been ambitiously applied to popularized accounts of the Paleolithic inhabitants of Atlantic Iberia “


If you are a Portuguese History fan, history is the roman period starting 200 BC and whatever happened after.  So in the fog of “don’t know don’t care” usually there is the reference of the Lusitanians by which the Portuguese themselves self-identity in reference to the mountain people up north that fought the Romans longest. The Romans said that there… lay a people that do not govern themselves nor let others govern them.   


So references earlier than the roman period in the peninsula is usually to a very diffuse Cynetes that had developed a written language leaving stelae mainly found in the south of Portugal… and if one tries go further back in time, pre end of first millennia BC, and there is almost a Blank slate, as if there was no social or territorial structure and there is a very faint mention to the Oestrimni and Coinos. Try to google it see how little there is about them. Yet I think that they were the ones that really were the bell beaker origin and the true referential point to the R1b that came from the Caucasus.


And books about ancient greek mariners state things such as these:


Before 530 BC the Greeks had made an exploratory voyage from their colony in the south of present day France. It was known as Massilia in those days, and is now still the thriving port of Marseilles. The expedition visited Tartessos, with which town they had exchanged trade since about 630 BC. There are fragments of an ancient manuscript known as the Massiliote Periplus which were quoted in a poem by Festus Avienus in the 4th century AD. It tells that the Tartessians went far north for their trade, perhaps as far as modern Brittany, and to two large islands even further north, known as Ierne (Ireland) and Albion (Britain).


That is what we now call the bell beakers and it propagation of R1b throughout Europe, isn’t it?


And the romans citing the greek great mariner Periplus stating related that this area.

“ Oestriminis (Extreme West in Latin) was peopled by the Oestrimni, a people who had been living there for a long time; they had to flee their homeland after an invasion of serpents."


What homeland are they referring?

Could it mean the Caucasus that lead to their exodus? Why not? …. On a personal note, after writing the previous paragraph, it took me 10 minutes, not longer, to find out that the  Ubaidians (that preceded the Uruks and Sumerians (Mesopotamia)), clearly involved in Shulaveri disappearance,  are actually known as the serpent people (!) remember in chapter I  I wrote because down south it was brewing the Ubaid period and they were moving north making the SSC old stuff


They even modified their skull from childhood to look more like snakes and portrait themselves with large almond-shape eyes like snakes (suppl X chapter…) :


“They come from a pre-Sumerian people—the Ubaidians. These hand-sized statuettes usually depict lizard- or snakelike people in various informal poses, such as holding and suckling a baby. Others are portrayed wearing shoulder padding or armor and holding staffs or scepters. It is the elongated heads and almond-shaped eyes that lend the figurines their reptilian appearance, leading many to believe that they depict serpent-related gods..”  Have fun (



And, why not, remember that at the slowness of prehistoric times stories and legends endure. 

All chapters of books about the Ubaid period, have titles such as “snake in the grass”, ophidian figurines, etc.  Google yourself Ubaid and see the pics and one immediately understands. Google Ubaid Crania and you will see the serpents that invaded the Shulaveri and made them flee.

 That is why the greeks, after trading for a century with the people in what is today Portugal described what is nowadays the city of Lisbon…


 “Ophiussa, also spelled Ophiusa, is the ancient name given by the ancient Greeks to what is now Portuguese territory near the mouth of the river Tagus. It means Land of Serpents.”


And I guess the Greeks learned more than that didn’t they?  it was so obvious, for instance for the Greeks called the southern part of the Caucasus… Iberia.  Not a coincidence, off course. It makes no sense. Therefore the Greeks knew that the people that lived in the Oestrimnis where the same people that lived in the Caucasus. Except that when they figure that much, actually the people that were living in Caucasus were of a completely different stock.


What really happened was the following.

The Caucasus and middle East had several Haplogroup and several stock of different people.  To make it simple, the Shulaveri-Shomu people were people that had spilled from the northern Caucasus do this side of the mountains.  Or maybe just around the Caspian sea and settled there when bumping again into the mountain. I don’t really know. However just on the other side of the mountains there were plenty of R1b as it, I think so, on this side of perpetual iced Caucasus Mountains.  But It means that everybody that lived north of lake Van (might eventual have been R1b and those are the ones I call the Shulaveri, although Shulaveri itself Is the only the northern part, next to the Kura river, and the ones with the traits we have been referring in this thesis more deeply clear. But many of the people living south of could also have been R1b more notably really near Araxes river in Kultepe-Nakhichevan or Aratashen and today are already considered as Shulaveri in opposition to sites near the heart of Shulaveri shomu that show different traits such as the Kmlo-2 culture. We will see in the future if ancient DNA is extracted. So lots of pre-bell beaker type of castros, not fully walled (most just half walled) and overall as we have seen a very sort of self-centered, sturdy, rough and seemed actually very psychological robust. Not friendly that is certain. That impregnated individualism in the architecture but very collaborative inter-site with specializations, great hunters, obsessed with long prismatic blades and the master of archery. Overall they were the masters of domestication. Either plant or animal. They master it. Apart from that… not at all a complex, elaborated, confabulated or creative force. 

If you look at a map it’s just a 200 km radius of movement where they were allowed to live free and roaming with their cattle and dogs on the back of their Tarpan horses. Not even getting as far south as Lake Van.

By 6000BC Shulaveri were already formed as a full package of plants and animals domestication. By 5500BC it was their apogee of sorts and by 5000BC they were pretty much gone.

Now, bellow Van Lake to the left there were the Halaf Culture that span from North part of what is today Syria, east Turkey until Taurus mountains and part of north Iraq.  Next to it and a bit to the right we had the Hassuna-Samarra culture.

And south of this all, into the southern part Iraq by 5500 BC started the Ubaid period. And they were evolved, complex, strange awkward,  delusion and  all the adjectives one can muster to describe a people that saw themselves as serpents, that did extreme crania deformation since infancy to deform the crania and make it look like serpents. They did had something elaborate and fermenting something that clearly went beyond what was the existence of people until then. I mean, this the people that led to the great civilizations of Mesopotamia, to Ur city, Sumer and the Sumerians that invented writing. So real evolved. And a whole new ball game in the planet.

Deformation of crania was not a localized phenomenon. It was seen very fast at Samarra people and it lingered for ages in the region, so much that even in places like Ganj Darra in Iran,  into the 9th-8th millennia BCE, so millennia later, lots of inhumation where found that represented a large part of the whole, and that actually had crania deformations.

Ubaid was a spread of something that could bedazzles lots of people and so not a stretch to see peoples around to subdue or embrace to. However apparently not the tall, sturdy guys a bit north than that.

And it was violent.


There is a note from Emmanuel Baudouin in “Mentesh Tepe, an early settlement of the Shomu-Shulaveri Culture in Azerbaijan


This description of the architectural elements would not be complete without the mention of a thick grey e blue layer(~10 e 20 cm) of ash with very small inclusions of charcoals that has been identified over a large part of the Neolithic level of the settlement. In some of the buildings, it clearly separates the two phases of occupation (Neolithic from Chalcolithic).


And by chalcolithic it was the Sioni Period, not at all resembling the Shulaveri. There was new and changed everything from architecture do social legacies.


It was a storm of serpents.  These Ophidian people, could (and I think it were) the Samarran just a bit south. Samarran is dated 5500 BC to 4800 BC so just at the right time to be the culprits. They were the serpents that did the dirty work. They were the ones that prior to URUK showed snake figurines. And that is why it is found Samarran painted pottery in those later layers of Shulaveri-Shomu as out of place or outliers pieces of sherds and pottery.

To the legends of the roaming Shulaveri, they were expelled from home by the serpents that were actually after the sources of Obsidian or even copper layers.



Uruk, the follow up of Ubaid, in Chalcolithic were found even behind the Caucasus Mountains into the north Caucasia.  And as the Sioni culture appeared in the previous Shulaveri, on their way to be Kura-Araxes culture the Shulaveri were no more. The really surge in the very beginning of the 6th millennia and were gone by the end of the 6th millennia. Then found heavily on the Merimde sites at the Nile Delta where by the end of the 5th millennia they were also gone leaving behind a legend that still persists in Egypt that the peoples of Europe were actually people the fled from Karnac and Luxor (weird legend anyways). 4th millennia saw the birth of Sahara and the events that followed really sent then to Southern Europe in Iberia by the last centuries of it in huge numbers mixed with other fleeing people although they should have been in Iberia in not large number since not long, couple of century, after leaving Nile Delta by 4000BC.   3rd millennia saw them conquer Europe as the Bell Beakers, 2nd millennia as the warriors of the Iron age fighting trough out Europe, then 1st millenia as Etruscans, and later Romans and the rest is history.

Anyways the more they moved away from the center of their coalescence point, Portugal, the more they became genetic diverse by interbreeding with women of other autosomal DNA and ended up making western Europe.


But for a long time they didn’t forgot the snakes that did them wrong.  So they told everyone about it.





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